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Should you buy or lease a hydrogen car? No, in my opinion.

My opinion on why hydrogen cars are not going to be anything more than a compliance car or a diversion of money that could be better spent building out the electric infrastructure.

I have a Ford Focus Electric. And while Ford might disagree it looks to me like it’s just a compliance car. A car that is sold in only a few States and in limited numbers. Yes, they do have some dealers in non compliance States like Arizona but try to find one on a lot somewhere in AZ. I looked for months and when one did come in it was either pre sold or sold in less than 5 hours.

So if you read any of my previous posts about it, I went to California to get it. Then I had it shipped to AZ. It couldn’t make the drive because there were no chargers for 200 miles of the route and the car only has an 80 mile range.

So then why did I still buy it? Because I do have electricity at home. So do all my neighbors. I also have a place to charge at work, for free and many of the places I shop have a charger as well.

Although for the 6 months and 4000 plus miles I have had it I have never had to charge anywhere but at home. I do charge at work but not because I have to but because it is free to charge. I have also plunged it into a pay charger a couple times but only because I wanted to be sure I could and new how to do it. It’s not rocket science but you do have to set up accounts to do it.

Now let’s say that I really like the Toyota Miraj. I hear it’s a really great car and gets 300 plus miles on a fill up of hydrogen. I buy it. Fill it up and drive it home to AZ. From one of the 8 California dealers that sell it. Do they deliver it with a full tank? I should be able to get it home. Now what. Do I call AAA and tell them I’m out of hydrogen? Do they tow me back to Los Angeles where they have one of the 8 possibly working Nitrogen Stations that might be able to fill the car in 10 minutes or less. After all, Toyota is giving you free nitrogen for the first few years.

Are they going to build a Nitrogen Station at every Toyota Dealer? At least Nissan has a quick charge station at most of their dealers. Many of them even work most of the time.But even if they don’t you can charge your Leaf in your garage. For a few hundred dollars you can add a 220v outlet and charge your car from zero to full in less than 6 hours. I don’t even have a 220v outlet in my garage and I have never had a problem.

We rarely drive more than 30 miles a day. Only twice have I ever seen the warning that tells me I’m getting to far from home and I better turn back or charge at my destination. It was after a day of running a lot of errands before going to work and I was less than 3 miles from the charger at work and 20 miles from home.

Now the State of California is pretty committed to Hydrogen. They have earmarked $200 Million for building 100 stations in the next several years. In case you’re bad at math that’s $2 Million per station. Holy Crap Batman. $2 Million. That’s $2,000,000.00 And none of those stations have a soda machine or even a bathroom. I’m not even sure if they will have more than one pump. But if they only take 5 minutes to fill the tank I doubt they need more than one pump. At least if it’s working properly and the company supplying the hydrogen has kept the the station properly supplied.

Why would supply be an issue. Well? From the looks of it the hydrogen pump is sort of like a soda fountain dispenser. A supplier has to bring bottles of compressed hydrogen from the factory where they make it and hook them up to the complicated machine that compresses it and then cools it before it’s pumped into your car. At least CNG can be filled at home or a station that has piped in supply. Not Hydrogen. First they have to make it. Usually by using CNG. Why not just eliminate the middle step and just burn CNG in your car?

Now why would I think this is a waste of money. We do need to get off fossil fuels. Not just because of global warming but because we need clean air to breath as well.

Because the economics of battery electric cars make more sense.

Right now there are about 143,000 battery electric cars in the State of California. Every single one of these cars can drive anywhere in the Country and find a place to plug in. Ever since the Tennessee Valley Authority in the 1930’s pretty much all of the USA has electricity.

While it takes $2 Million to build one Hydrogen Fuel Station it only takes $50 Thousand to build one Electric DC Fast Charger. And that price is even less per extra line. So you can build 20 DC Fast Chargers for the cost of one Hydrogen Fuel Station.

But it gets better. Most people who drive Electric cars don’t need to fast charge. They rarely even need to slow charge. Most people could plug in anywhere they stop or shop and pick up just a mile or few if they need them. The cost for this. Just a plug on a lamp post or the wall near a parking spot. Most people could charge their car like they charge their phone or laptop at the airport. Just park near a plug and the equipment that comes with your car is all you need.

Right now my car has been parked at the airport for the last 3 days. It charged on the fast charger in two hours but it didn’t have to. I’m not going to be back for 4 days.

Where we do need fast chargers, are near highways and rest stops. Just like Tesla is doing. This would allow people like me to drive from L.A. to Phoenix if I really wanted to. Not that I’m planning on taking my Ford Focus Electric on a long trip but I might want to move from Arizona one day and I don’t want to ship the car. For most long trips I get on an airplane and rent a car if I need one. Sometimes I use Uber.

That’s pretty much why I see hydrogen cars as a waste of time and money. Why build a whole new infrastructure that still requires building stations that cost millions and keep you tied to having to buy your fuel like you buy gas now? Maybe that’s the answer. You are still tied to the same old model of buying fuel from a distribution system that puts your money into the pockets of the same companies we do now. No solar panels on your own roof providing your own clean energy. Just hide the dirtiest part of the process so you think that your doing something for the planet. Yes, there is still a lot of electricity made from coal but it is still cleaner than gasoline or all the fossil fuels used today to make hydrogen and transport it to the stations.

My money is on Battery Electric and Hybrid Electric like the Chevy Volt or Ford Cmax Energy Systems. While Toyota had a pretty good idea with the Prius and the Gas Extender Vehicle it’s now the time of the Battery Extender Vehicle. To be followed by the Long Range Battery Electric Vehicle.

I could be wrong but I don’t think the Japanese have made this big a mistake in backing the wrong idea since Pearl Harbor. I wonder why the Germans aren’t all in on hydrogen? Maybe something in their past?

Don’t let that test drive in a Prius keep you from trying and Electric car.

There is a trend of Prius owners who are not buying a new Prius Hybrid when they are ready to sell their old car. Why?

Have you ever driven a Prius? I have. A brand new one at that. A 2015 Prius V with every available option on it.

O.K. It’s really not a bad car. It’s actually a really nice car. It’s very roomy, especially the back seats. Even with me driving (I’m 6 feet tall) with the seat all the way back the back seat passenger has plenty of leg room and the back seats partially recline. Something most cars cant do.

It gets an average or 38 MPG. Compared to my Mazda 6 that averages 30 MPG doing the same kind of driving. The Prius V also can carry more cargo. I can get 4 18x18x16 boxes in the back of the Prius with the back seats up. I can’t even get one box in the Mazda. The boxes are to tall to even get them in the opening. The Mazda will fit 3 golf bags. The Prius V is all about the cargo room. That’s why my mother bought it. That and she really likes Toyota’s, she’s had one for the last 15 years. A 2000 4Runner. It was a very reliable and a great SUV for all those years.

Back to the Prius. The back seats are way more comfortable than a Rav 4. That’s probably why so many Taxi Companies buy them.

It also has one feature I really love. Adaptive Cruise Control. This is a great feature for driving on the highway. Set the speed limit you want and it keeps you a safe distance from the car in front of you.

But, yes, there is a but. I enjoy driving the Prius about as much as I enjoy driving a forklift. Yeah, I have one of those. It’s also a Toyota. The Prius is an appliance. It does what it’s supposed to do. It gets you from point A to point B efficiently.

It’s not fun to drive. It’s not peppy when you accelerate. And it’s not as cool looking or as nice an interior as my mid trim level Mazda 6.Both have fake leather but the Mazda has more soft touch plastic surfaces.

While the Mazda is not really a fast car with only a 2.5L engine it is really fun to drive. The Mazda does 0-60 in about 8.9 seconds. The Prius will get up to 60 in your lifetime, It also sounds like it’s going to blow up if you floor the gas pedal. What it does do really well is sneak up on people. If you are a teenager or the Von Trop Family you can get it down the block without making a sound without having to push it. As long as you don’t go over 15 MPH.

For some reason Mazda is not well received by the public yet it is highly praised by the automotive press. I really enjoy my Mazda 6. They have exceptional gas milage with their Skyactive engines and are fun to drive. There’s a lot of the Miata DNA in all of them.

As for the Green Cred of the Prius. The difference between 30 MPG Mazda 6 and 37 MPG Prius V is only $188.00 per year if you drive 12,000 miles per year and gas costs $2.50 a gallon. And the Prius costs almost $10,000 more than the Mazda out the door with comparable features. If you drive lots of highway miles you’re probably better off with one of the many Diesels out there. I really like the VW Wagon if a diesel is what you need.

Are you confused yet? I started out by telling you don’t let driving a Prius turn you off from buying an electric car. That’s because out of my 5 cars I like my Ford Focus Electric the best out of all of them.

Why? I find it is the car I choose to use the most. Not just because it has the lowest cost per mile of all my cars. Not because it can fit 2 adults, 2 middle schoolers and both their back packs, trumpet and snare drum. And not because it looks pretty cool with it’s 20 inch wheels.

It’s quiet. Really quite. It has instant torque when you hit the “gas”.  It handles well and is really a pleasure to drive getting groceries, picking up the kids at school and driving to work and back. Especially during rush hour as it’s ZEV status gets you HOV lane access plates if you are by yourself which I am most of the time.

Even if I didn’t get HOV plates, it is the most fun to drive. It’s almost as much fun as my Miata.

So if you are looking at a second car, go rent an electric car. A Leaf S or Ford Focus Electric can be had for about $20k or so new after tax credits and even less used.

The only way to see if one of these will work with your lifestyle is to rent one or drive one for a week or so. One or two days is not enough to let you realize that you really don’t get range anxiety when you own one.

If you really need a car that can travel 300 or more miles once in a while look at a Chevy Volt or Ford Energy. These cars have a reasonable all electric range where most people will hardly ever have to put gas in the tank if at all.

And the part you will like most about a car that runs in electric mode all or most of the time, they are fun to drive.

The most fun to drive all electric car is a Tesla. But if you wait till the affordable Tesla comes out in the next few years you will miss all the fun you could be having now.

Is an all electric car a good car for a teenager.

Why the Ford Focus Electric is a great car for your teenager? There may be others but they are not as inexpensive and the Ford doesn’t have an insane mode. That’s the last feature you want a teen to have access to.

You will always know where they are. Well, at least you will know where the car is. You can put an app on your phone that tells you where the car is at all times.

You can set a maximum speed. You get two keys with the car. One can be programmed to set the maximum speed so if you don’t want your kid going faster than 65 they can’t.

It also has a setting where if they are not wearing their seat belt the radio volume will decrease to a level so low they won’t be able to take it.

They also have to spend a few hours somewhere recharging the battery. They can’t just run off beyond an hour or two away at a whim.

There are other cars that have many of these features but this one does it emission free and they have a zero cost for gas. You won’t ever have them asking you for money to fill the tank. All they have to do is plug in at home or work. Maybe one day schools will have free charging.

Maybe you can add that to the agenda for the next school board meeting. That is if they ever stop cutting funding to schools.